Moody DS 45 Moody 45 DS - what’s it like, and what can you do with it?

Daniel Poon

Daniel Poon
Registered Guest
Hello

My wife and I are looking to buy our first boat, and some of the older examples of the 45 DS are just about in budget. In terms of what we would be doing with it once we bought it - in a few years time we could be spending extended periods of time living on it, probably in the med to begin with, but would still have a place on dry land to go back to whenever we want to.

Given that it wouldn’t be our only home, we figure we could live in a 45 foot boat without going crazy, and 45 foot is the biggest we have ever sailed so far, so we comfortable that we would be able learn how to handle it with just the two of us. Apart from the med, at some point in the future we may well go further afield to the americas, or closer to home around norther Europe. I have no ambition to go round the world, but there are some lovely spots in far flung places I’d love to sail about. Never say never!

I’m an engineer by profession, and some of the boat construction on structural, safety critical components scares the bejeebers out of me. We may well end up pottering around the med, perfectly happy, and never do any blue water sailing, but I’d like to know that the safety factors are nice and high, and the boat has generally being over engineered. Plus as I may well be luck enough to be able to afford to buy a boat that keeps the blue water option open, so why not keep the dream alive?

I have two questions about the modern moodys. The first is whether they have the same ocean going perigee as the moodys of old. I’m not sure I will not be testing any boat to anywhere near its limit, but it would still be good to know. The deck saloon concept is great, but all that glass looks a bit fragile - I hope it isn’t a structural component, nor potentially a huge gaping hole for the ingress of water!

The second question is as to whether the deck saloon ends up being a great big green house in the Mediterranean sun. While the inside of a DS seems like a great place to be on watch on a long voyage in inclement weather, I presume the med was also one of its target markets, so I would guess they made sure it wouldn’t get too hot in there. I am also assuming that the deck saloon glass is not so tinted as to make night watch impossible from behind it.

Any feedback would be appreciated! We have clocking up a modest 1000 miles or so in the uk, med and canaries on mate’s boats or charters so, if you can, please pitch your answers at that level.

Thanks

Dan
 

Neil Eccles

Neil Eccles
Member
General Committee
GC Support Team
MOA Position
Website Editor
Boat name
CUTAWAY
Berth
Vannes
Boat type
Moody 42
Cruising area
West Coast of France and North Coast Of Spain
Daniel,

We don't have many Moody 45DS owners, so maybe I can make some general remarks.

Firstly all Moodys are over engineered and that includes the 45DS. The designer Bill Dixon was very proud of that.

Moody 45DS will be easy to sail with 2 people, its set up for that.

For the Med you will need air conditioning installed, and if your boat doesn't have a generator to run it, that too. The heat will be huge, but conversely it is designed to open up for ventilation. The blue water option will be very open indeed. I would not worry about that, so as you say "never say never".

I like them because they have high gunwales, it is easy to walk around the deck.

I am sure you will be able to live on her without going stir crazy, but you do need a few escape plans from time to time. Being a virtual live aboard is like living on an island, where inhabitants have to get off occasionally to preserve sanity. So prepare for forays ashore to friends or your shore base to normalise yourself.

Sorry to be imprecise, good luck with your searches

Kindest

Neil
 

Daniel Poon

Daniel Poon
Registered Guest
Thanks Neil for the reassurance on the quality and your insights into living about such a boat. I too like the high gunwales.

Im sure I must sound paranoid about safety but our industry is not exactly steeped in glory. Not to single Oyster out, they build less than 1000 boats, and 1 of them failed. A layman would say that there is a 0.1% chance of your Oyster keel failing. I don't like those odds, layman or otherwise.
 

Claudio Migliori

Claudio Migliori
Member
Boat name
ISCHIA
Berth
Marina Di Scarlino
Boat type
Moody DS 45
Cruising area
Mediterranean
I only see your questions now.
My wife and I are owners of a 45DS Moody purchased 5 years ago in France. Now "ISCHIA" is 9 years old and during this period I did not do extraordinary maintenance.
I have some small browsing experience in extreme latitudes. I can tell you that with "ischia" I would not go in those parts but if I had to do it with a resin hull, MOODY 45DS would be among the hulls that I would evaluate with the fingers of one hand.
The hull is really robust and the deckhouse is very reliable.
We sail at night and the windows have never given visibility problems, they are today in perfect condition.
I anticipate two critical issues:
The boat reveals all its size during maneuvers in port. It is docile but demanding and has a lot of grip on the side wind.
The second criticality is that in the Mediterranean, when you are at anchor in the absence of wind or with a breeze from the bow
, sitting in the cockpit is very hot because the deckhouse stops every little breeze.
We and our dogs are enthusiastic about ISCHIA. The boat transmits safety and is comfortable in an extraordinary way.
We are waiting for you in Tuscany.
Claudio
 

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David Poulin

David Poulin
Registered Guest
Hello Dan,
Did you find a Moody DS? What has your research provided you? Where in the States are you?

Hello Claudio,
I’m happy to hear that you love your Moody. My wife and I normally spend time in Castiglioncello, not to far from you. Maybe we can meet up at the marina sometime. We’re planning to retire in your wonderful country!

I’m also in the market for a Moody DS 45. I’m living in Italy and plan to spend 4 to 6 months on the water. Hence the Moody DS45. I’m also looking at the Albatros DS 40.

Has anyone researched this boat?
I look forward to hearing from you soon!

I plan to look at a Moody DS in a week. Do you have any information about the DS that I should be aware of? Are there any known problems or weaknesses with the DS? I know that I must get a full survey before I make a purchase. Does anyone know of a trustworthy survivor?

Thank you!
David
 

Hugh Creasy

Hugh Creasy
Member
Boat name
HAPPY
Berth
Seattle, Wa
Boat type
Moody DS 45
Cruising area
Puget Sound
Hello, I am new to this group. My spouse and I just purchased a 2012 Moody DS 45, called Happy. These are coveted vessels, and are especially rare here in the Americas so we looked overseas. We are happy, we purchased her in Sweden and sailed through Sweden, Denmark, Germany and Netherlands, then shipped her on a cargo ship to Florida for some warm water sailing before getting her back to Seattle in May 2020.

We are looking to connect with other DS 45 owners to share knowledge.
 

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Hugh Creasy

Hugh Creasy
Member
Boat name
HAPPY
Berth
Seattle, Wa
Boat type
Moody DS 45
Cruising area
Puget Sound
Hello Dan,
Did you find a Moody DS? What has your research provided you? Where in the States are you?

Hello Claudio,
I’m happy to hear that you love your Moody. My wife and I normally spend time in Castiglioncello, not to far from you. Maybe we can meet up at the marina sometime. We’re planning to retire in your wonderful country!

I’m also in the market for a Moody DS 45. I’m living in Italy and plan to spend 4 to 6 months on the water. Hence the Moody DS45. I’m also looking at the Albatros DS 40.

Has anyone researched this boat?
I look forward to hearing from you soon!

I plan to look at a Moody DS in a week. Do you have any information about the DS that I should be aware of? Are there any known problems or weaknesses with the DS? I know that I must get a full survey before I make a purchase. Does anyone know of a trustworthy survivor?

Thank you!
David
Hi Dave, I've done extensive research on the Moody DS45 and familiar with the market, strength, capabilities and global pricing. Please let me know if you'd like to have a phone conversation with me, there is a lot of information that would be easiest to convey by phone. Long and short, I've cruised blue water, sailed and raced all my life, and I'm a Mechanical Engineer and Maritime Engineer - i just bought one!
 

Hugh Creasy

Hugh Creasy
Member
Boat name
HAPPY
Berth
Seattle, Wa
Boat type
Moody DS 45
Cruising area
Puget Sound
I only see your questions now.
My wife and I are owners of a 45DS Moody purchased 5 years ago in France. Now "ISCHIA" is 9 years old and during this period I did not do extraordinary maintenance.
I have some small browsing experience in extreme latitudes. I can tell you that with "ischia" I would not go in those parts but if I had to do it with a resin hull, MOODY 45DS would be among the hulls that I would evaluate with the fingers of one hand.
The hull is really robust and the deckhouse is very reliable.
We sail at night and the windows have never given visibility problems, they are today in perfect condition.
I anticipate two critical issues:
The boat reveals all its size during maneuvers in port. It is docile but demanding and has a lot of grip on the side wind.
The second criticality is that in the Mediterranean, when you are at anchor in the absence of wind or with a breeze from the bow
, sitting in the cockpit is very hot because the deckhouse stops every little breeze.
We and our dogs are enthusiastic about ISCHIA. The boat transmits safety and is comfortable in an extraordinary way.
We are waiting for you in Tuscany.
Claudio
Claudio - Nice vessel, I like your assessment and agree with your comments. In your images, I see that like me, you have no side hull folding down steps. I do not have the Stainless Steel steps though, those could be really handy, where did you get those?
 

David Poulin

David Poulin
Registered Guest
Hi Dave, I've done extensive research on the Moody DS45 and familiar with the market, strength, capabilities and global pricing. Please let me know if you'd like to have a phone conversation with me, there is a lot of information that would be easiest to convey by phone. Long and short, I've cruised blue water, sailed and raced all my life, and I'm a Mechanical Engineer and Maritime Engineer - i just bought one!
Absolutely!
What number can I call you at? I’m in Europe.
Where did you buy your Moody 45DS from?
This is our first purchase... and my wife is worried about buying a money pit. The boats I’m looking at are a 2010 with 477 hours and lightly used in the Med and a 2011 with 1900 hours and 20,000 miles under her keel, but maintained well. The 2011 has more ware and tear.
I look forward to talking with you!
David
 

David Poulin

David Poulin
Registered Guest
I only see your questions now.
My wife and I are owners of a 45DS Moody purchased 5 years ago in France. Now "ISCHIA" is 9 years old and during this period I did not do extraordinary maintenance.
I have some small browsing experience in extreme latitudes. I can tell you that with "ischia" I would not go in those parts but if I had to do it with a resin hull, MOODY 45DS would be among the hulls that I would evaluate with the fingers of one hand.
The hull is really robust and the deckhouse is very reliable.
We sail at night and the windows have never given visibility problems, they are today in perfect condition.
I anticipate two critical issues:
The boat reveals all its size during maneuvers in port. It is docile but demanding and has a lot of grip on the side wind.
The second criticality is that in the Mediterranean, when you are at anchor in the absence of wind or with a breeze from the bow
, sitting in the cockpit is very hot because the deckhouse stops every little breeze.
We and our dogs are enthusiastic about ISCHIA. The boat transmits safety and is comfortable in an extraordinary way.
We are waiting for you in Tuscany.
Claudio
Hello Claudio,
Where are you in Tuscany? My wife and I spend a lot of time in Castiglioncello.
I’m nearing a possible purchase of a Moody 45DS. I would like to talk with you about your Moody and the cost of ownership.
Thank you and Happy New Year!
David
 

David Poulin

David Poulin
Registered Guest
Hi Dave, I've done extensive research on the Moody DS45 and familiar with the market, strength, capabilities and global pricing. Please let me know if you'd like to have a phone conversation with me, there is a lot of information that would be easiest to convey by phone. Long and short, I've cruised blue water, sailed and raced all my life, and I'm a Mechanical Engineer and Maritime Engineer - i just bought one!
Now I read the text. You bought Happy in Europe.
 

Hugh Creasy

Hugh Creasy
Member
Boat name
HAPPY
Berth
Seattle, Wa
Boat type
Moody DS 45
Cruising area
Puget Sound
Absolutely!
What number can I call you at? I’m in Europe.
Where did you buy your Moody 45DS from?
This is our first purchase... and my wife is worried about buying a money pit. The boats I’m looking at are a 2010 with 477 hours and lightly used in the Med and a 2011 with 1900 hours and 20,000 miles under her keel, but maintained well. The 2011 has more ware and tear.
I look forward to talking with you!
David
Hi David, I’m happy to talk anytime, however, today would be great because after the new year my schedule will become very demanding. I’m in Seattle, you can call anytime 08.00 to 21.00. +1 503 545 8399
Absolutely!
What number can I call you at? I’m in Europe.
Where did you buy your Moody 45DS from?
This is our first purchase... and my wife is worried about buying a money pit. The boats I’m looking at are a 2010 with 477 hours and lightly used in the Med and a 2011 with 1900 hours and 20,000 miles under her keel, but maintained well. The 2011 has more ware and tear.
I look forward to talking with you!
David
Hi David, I’m happy to talk anytime, however, today would be great because after the new year my schedule will become very demanding. I’m in Seattle, you can call anytime 08.00 to 21.00. +1 503 545 8399
 
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