Moody 42 (late 90s early 00s) Alternative Keels 44's and 42's

[Richard Shaw]

Hi all, we are new temporary members, expecting to buy a Moody (40 to 46 ft) in Europe in the next 12 months or so.

We would appreciate some help clarifying what alternative keels (Fin?, Shallow draft?, bulb ?) are available in the Moody 44 (90's) and the Moody 42 .

We have previously owned fin keel yachts but have no experience with shallow draft bulbs, Schell keels etc etc. Access to more anchorages is the obvious benefit of shallow keels. How much performance should we expect to sacrifice if we choose one of the Moody shallow draft options?

Many Thanks
Richard and Jane
Sydney Australia

 

[Peter Wright]

Hi Richard,

Welcome to the MOA. You will find details of all the Moody models built by Marine Projects here:

Moody Boat Archive | Moody Owners Association

moodyowners.org

This includes the keel options available, which vary between models.

Peter.

 

[Ben Vermey]

Hi Richard,

Welcome to the MOA. You will find details of all the Moody models built by Marine Projects here:

Moody Boat Archive | Moody Owners Association

moodyowners.org

This includes the keel options available, which vary between models.

Peter.

Hi Richard,
I can speak for the M44 shoal keel (Scheel keel), having put 12,000 miles on Kintaro now. I am currently in the Tuomotus having started in Turkey, so I’m half way home to Freo. The shallower draft has been brilliant for places like here, the Bahamas and San Blas. It draws 1.5m - 5 feet. You would also struggle at some of the fuel berths I have been to with a deeper draft. I haven’t noticed any reduction in performance, but frankly most of my sailing has been downwind in the trades, so it wouldn’t matter anyway. As a frame of reference I averaged 6.4 knots for the 4000 miles downwind from Panama to Hiva Oa.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Ben

 

[Richard Shaw]

Thanks Peter, I understand it now. I previously looked at the Moody models resource, but didn't see the detail in the tables.

Thanks Ben, really useful insight.

The logical part of my brain knows:

1) Like you we will spend 95% of our "sailing time" off the breeze where the Scheel keel will work fine and I won't give it a second thought.
2) 95 % of our "on-boat" time will be at anchor/ in harbour, as close to shore as possible for convenience and shelter. Scheel Keel also best option for this.

But old habits die hard, and there will be the occasional work to windward, in company, where I'd like to feel the boat can hold its own. Interested in views (gut feel?) on how much pointing/VMG gets sacrificed for the draft.


Cheers

Richard

 

[Ben Vermey]

Thanks Peter, I understand it now. I previously looked at the Moody models resource, but didn't see the detail in the tables.

Thanks Ben, really useful insight.

The logical part of my brain knows:

1) Like you we will spend 95% of our "sailing time" off the breeze where the Scheel keel will work fine and I won't give it a second thought.
2) 95 % of our "on-boat" time will be at anchor/ in harbour, as close to shore as possible for convenience and shelter. Scheel Keel also best option for this.

But old habits die hard, and there will be the occasional work to windward, in company, where I'd like to feel the boat can hold its own. Interested in views (gut feel?) on how much pointing/VMG gets sacrificed for the draft.


Cheers

Richard

I haven’t sailed the fin keel so I can’t directly compare, but Kintaro points at 40 degrees no problem. Below that you are pinching a little bit, but possible with the right sail trim and sea state. These aren’t racers though…

 

[Richard Shaw]

Thanks Ben